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John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:38 am
by fredrosse
This steamboat was the first to enter regular commercial service (passenger and freight) in the world, and traveled more than 2000 miles along the Delaware River between Philadelphia PA and Trenton NJ in the summer of 1790. Although it was operating 17 years before Fulton’s steamboat, it was not a commercial success, as there were relatively good wagon roads on both sides of the Delaware River at that time.

The boat was 60+ feet long, and made about 8 MPH. The stern paddle mechanism works very similar to a duck’s paddle motion, and works with reasonable efficiency. Fitch knew about paddle wheels, and had even made models of sidewheel boats, but it was thought that the wide paddles would be difficult in the canals of the day, so he invented the stern mounted “duck paddle” mechanism.

The John Fitch Steamboat Museum opened at Craven Hall in Warminster PA this spring. The model is radio controlled with a live steam & electric propulsion system. We are about to test the boat on the water (a swimming pool no less).

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:33 pm
by DetroiTug
That would be an interesting boat to reproduce full scale :) . Must have been quite a site to watch in motion.

Small World, I was in Bardstown last week.

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:07 am
by fredrosse
The model will be used for demo purposes, and the museam would like to eventually make a people carying steamer, if they can secure funding. I told them that anything over 40 feet long will not be practical, as Coast Guard exemption only applies to steamboats 40 feet or less in length. But a 39 foot working Fitch replica would be a wonderful experiment. Something about the size of my plywood sidewheeler would probably be about the minimum for a people carrying approximation of the Fitch boat propulsion system.

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:58 am
by DetroiTug
Here is another version of a Fitch design.



-Ron

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:54 am
by fredrosse
The earlier Fitch Steamboat was used on the Delaware River, but not in commercial service. I am told that the hull was the same as the boats Washington used to cary his troops across the river to attack the Hessian troops on Christmas eve 1776.

The commercial steamboat of 1790 was much larger, and used stern paddles. A short video shows the mechanism in action:
This model will be underway with live steam soon.

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:27 am
by merump
I have to agree, this would really look marvelous in blown to full scale. I reckon though that that you should make it a point not to let any part go beyond 40 feet so that you could get exemption from the coast guard. It would be such a pity not to be able to create it for budget constraints.

I would really to get to see steamboat demos though I am not familiar with any in the Palmdale area.

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:18 am
by 87gn@tahoe
Palmdale, CA?

If so, there are several meets in Northern CA, and Southern OR beginning in June. Then there's the NorthWest Steam Society meets up in Washington, and BC.

The closest to you that I know of would be the Great Delta Steamboat meet at the B&W Resort Marina in Isleton, CA. It is held on the last full weekend in September, as it has been for nearly 40 years now.

wes

Re: John Fitch Steamboat Model, 1790

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:30 pm
by artemis
87gn@tahoe wrote:Palmdale, CA?

If so, there are several meets in Northern CA, and Southern OR beginning in June. Then there's the NorthWest Steam Society meets up in Washington, and BC.

The closest to you that I know of would be the Great Delta Steamboat meet at the B&W Resort Marina in Isleton, CA. It is held on the last full weekend in September, as it has been for nearly 40 years now.

wes
Not quite sure how this got in with Fitch's boat but:
NWSS Annual Meet in 2011 was held in Cathlamet, WA, right across the border-Columbia River from OR. 2013 will be - again - in Wheeler, OR. There's a good "calendar" of steamboat events throughout the US (and some "overseas") on the International Steamboat Society website at http://www.steamboating.org