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Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:29 am
by Mfoxchicago
Have a 34yo gimbled Bergen-Nautik Compass in my Wheel House that has grown weak. Once I re-magnetize the magnets, what type of liquid is the medium the dial floats in? There was a very small amount of "something" in the housing, but couldn't make it out. Also, once the magnetized dial is ready to go back in, is the normal approach to completely fill and submerge the dial in the liquid?

Re: Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:34 pm
by DetroiTug
Hi Mack,

I think it is mineral oil that is used. Yes, fully submerged in oil. I would leave a small air bubble for expansion of the liquid in direct sunlight etc.

Are you sure the compass is bad? I have a steel hull too and have compass issues, I have this beautiful Wilcox Crittenden compass that I planned to use, but it will not work at all in the wheelhouse, it needs compensators (two large metal spheres either side which cancel out errant magnetic field from the hull, which means it needs to be on a pedestal -which means it would take up too much room. I have a small Marbles brand antique hunting compass hanging on the back wall in a leather case that I use if needed, but it's rarely needed.

Have you tried the compass away from the boat?

-Ron

Re: Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:50 am
by loggerhogger
A while back I bought a small compas that was liquid filled. I can't remember the name of the manufacturer, but they were still in business. I called to ask what kind of liquid they used, since it was low. They told me that regular cigarette lighter fluid is what they used. I tried it, and there doesn't seem to be any negative effects.

Re: Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:49 pm
by Akitene
Hi Mack,

Not 100% sure but I guess the liquid the dial floats in is glycerine.

Glycerine is used in manometers, I'd bet it's the same for compasses.

Regards.

Re: Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:47 am
by Lopez Mike
Compass fluid is a light and very clear mineral oil. There was a time when alcohol was used but those days are long gone.

You can buy it in moderate quantities on line for a very reasonable price. Also I have never had any problem buying it from compass repairmen.

Aircraft Spruce in the U.S. has it for cheap. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/ ... 20Products

Re: Re-magnetizing a Bergen-Nautik Compass

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:11 pm
by DetroiTug
Hi Mike,

That is what I've always understood too is that it was mineral oil. One thing to keep in mind about using lighter fluid/kerosene etc, while they probably work just fine, if it gets broken or starts leaking around other electronics or a boiler, it could cause a fire. I'm surprised a compass repair place would suggest using a flammable liquid.

-Ron