My column-style steamengine

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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by Lopez Mike » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:31 pm

My piston valve has rings and the wear, as measured by measuring the bore, has been essentially zero. I am aware that some piston valves are fitted without rings but that seems sort of primitive.

Of course I am a heretic who thinks that plain bearings are primordial at best. I'm down to one, the big end, but that seems to be lasting well so in the spirit of deep seated sloth I'm leaving it alone.
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by Lopez Mike » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:41 pm

Dietrich,

Found a supplier here in the states. Thanks for the lead.
https://catalog.climaxmetal.com/asset/L ... mblies.pdf

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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by dampfspieler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:08 pm

Hello,

today i have tested the engine with the balanced D-valve and the new pumps. The boiler is a bit small for the job but it works. The burner is a ceramical one with a diameter of 125 mm and the normal output is 11,5 kW.

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Here you can see it run - https://youtu.be/O9kkZjXPH2Y


to be continued
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by cyberbadger » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:43 pm

dampfspieler wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:08 pm
Here you can see it run - https://youtu.be/O9kkZjXPH2Y
Your attention to detail from concept to implementation is amazing.

I see what you mean about the balance, this engine is impressive aesthetically, technically, and functionally.

I wish I had detents....

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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by TahoeSteam » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:35 am

Balanced slide valves reduce friction and free-up the engine. They do this by reducing surface area exposed to the force of valve chest steam pressure pushing the D-valve against valve face. Another benefit is the associated valve gear (die blocks, bushings, pins, etc) lasting longer.

Piston valves effectively have near-zero force pushing against the valve face. Essentially a "balanced" valve by nature of their construction.

I'm not sure how a piston valve would wear out any faster than a slide valve or a regular cylinder piston/wall... If the valve is vertical as in a lunch engine (gravity is in its favor!), the stem is supported by a guide that is in good order, then the only lateral forces would be from the rings on the cylinder wall (if so equipped). In theory that would require little to no lubrication if running saturated steam much like what many claim with slide valves (If supported by a proper guide, how is a piston valve much different from the piston in the cylinder???). Now if someone selected rings with too much spring to them, or port faces without any ligaments I can start to see issues... But then I would say, "Conventional slide valve-trains wear out, balanced slide valves fair much better, and poor piston valve designs wear out."

Foreign bodies on the valve face are another story altogether... With a steel boiler, one should never run a steam line without a strainer. I have some pictures of wonderfully scored valve faces if you don't believe me... On an internally lubricated engine no less.

SORRY TO HIJACK... HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION IN ANOTHER THREAD
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by TahoeSteam » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:38 am

Dietrich,

I am really impressed with your work. Bravo!
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by TahoeSteam » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:51 am

Did you make a different valve cover also?
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by dampfspieler » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:41 am

Hi Wesley,

yes and no, i have built a new from the old material. Because the old was very massive i have removed a lot of material and soldered some little parts so it looks like a casting similar to the old marine steam engine covers. Then the time was come for filing and sanding. ;) ;)

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Then i have milled a gap at the inner side so i could mount the cup of the balanced valve. To get a smooth surface was a bit tricky.

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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by TahoeSteam » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:41 pm

Such a clever solution. I really like the way it looks. You have really taken your engine to the next level.
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Re: My column-style steamengine

Post by dampfspieler » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:01 am

Hello,

when i've got the engine there was only a feedwater pump.

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Because i want to run it with condenser i had to built also a condensate pump. So there was built a new pump unit with a smaller feedwater- and a three-valve-condensate-pump at a baseplate with identical dimensions as the old one. Both pumps are picked up by the crosshead with a yoke. The piston rod and the plunger are long guided.

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to be continued
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