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cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:45 am
by barts
Any recommendations? 600w is hard to remove from the condensate.

- Bart

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:23 pm
by fredrosse
Have you examined the Green Velvet website? They are the only place I know of that discuss specifics of both compounded and non-compounded steam cylinder oils, as well as several other specialty oils and grease.

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:18 pm
by DetroiTug
When I talked with Mr Petitjean from Green Velvet a while back, he suggested none of the Sapon oils with tallow should be ran in an condensing system. Only the PBJ types of oils that will not mix with water.

Here is some further reading on the subject:

http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/misc ... -hwade.htm

-Ron

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:22 pm
by Oilking
Bart,
Give Bill Petitijean a call: 423-215-0684. Bill set us up with biodegradable PBJ oil for use on the crank and crossheads on the Portland, even hand delivered it! He has a wealth of knowledge on all things lube and steam and most of the time will talk the subject as long as you're willing. I believe he is supplying PBJ and steam oil for the 4449 & SP&S 700 at the Oregon railroad museum. He will also supply in just about any quantity you want from a quart and up, maybe as small as a pint.

Give Bill a call when you have the time to talk and you'll learn a lot.

Dave

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:35 am
by Kelly Anderson
I have used Green Velvet PB&J 460 for steam oil with complete satisfaction. http://www.steamenginelube.com/files/PB ... cation.pdf Hot well filters using Bounty paper towels per Ike Harter's design filters it out pretty effectively, if you use the minimum amount possible to prevent squeaking.

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:39 am
by barts
Kelly Anderson wrote:I have used Green Velvet PB&J 460 for steam oil with complete satisfaction. http://www.steamenginelube.com/files/PB ... cation.pdf Hot well filters using Bounty paper towels per Ike Harter's design filters it out pretty effectively, if you use the minimum amount possible to prevent squeaking.

Thank you - this sounds promising... I've got an email out to those folks asking some questions. By the way, how does this stuff smell? Some of us have enclosed cabins, and a steam cylinder oil with minimal smell would be a good idea.

- Bart

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:48 am
by Lopez Mike
Sheesh, Bart. If you would put together something more sophisticated than that bed pan you are using for a hot well you might be happier. (grins) This coming from a guy who is using a file box from a thrift store.

Is this for Otter or your new boat? I didn't know that you were using internal lube on Otter.

I finally found where my squeak was coming from. After trying all sorts of oils and unguents and slimes of every sort, it turned out to be my valve rod packing. Now you could drink out of my hot well (depending of course on how drunk you were).

Don't forget Oilsorb pads as a hot well separator. Cheap and reusable. Almost any marina has them. Sometimes they hand them out for free. 50 cents for an 18" x 18" sheet when you buy them by the case. I wrap one around each of my hot well suction lines and hold them on with a cable tie.

Re: cylinder oil for condensing plants....

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:08 pm
by barts
Lopez Mike wrote:Sheesh, Bart. If you would put together something more sophisticated than that bed pan you are using for a hot well you might be happier. (grins) This coming from a guy who is using a file box from a thrift store.

Is this for Otter or your new boat? I didn't know that you were using internal lube on Otter.

I finally found where my squeak was coming from. After trying all sorts of oils and unguents and slimes of every sort, it turned out to be my valve rod packing. Now you could drink out of my hot well (depending of course on how drunk you were).

Don't forget Oilsorb pads as a hot well separator. Cheap and reusable. Almost any marina has them. Sometimes they hand them out for free. 50 cents for an 18" x 18" sheet when you buy them by the case. I wrap one around each of my hot well suction lines and hold them on with a cable tie.
Both boats are on my mind.... Otter needs a bit of lube otherwise things rust up when she get shut down, and then I have to take things apart. Oilsorb is exactly what I use for a separator medium.

I had some pump trouble (check valves gummed up) this year which might have been aided by oil, so I'm looking for an oil that doesn't get so comfortable in the boiler feed water :).

- Bart